Originally Posted by
Burton
LOL - incorrect? You just took a lot more words to say exactly the same thing!
Your example of the 7 year old and cheap single pivot brakes sorta fits because the biggest complaint is that the brakes don't work well ... because they require more effort than the usual child can produce. (Except I can't remember the last time I saw anything other than stamped V-brakes on kids bikes but maybe thats just me.)
In case you've forgotten - cars trucks and motorcycles all used to be exclusively a man's domain before power steering, power assisted brakes and hydraulic clutches. It was all about level of effort - I think that was the point.
No I did not say the same thing, I contrasted manual car brakes with bicycle single pivot brakes and their not even closely similar in difficulty of operation.
And most of us on this forum are not riding on cheap single pivot Walmart style brakes, and those cheap Walmart single pivot brakes cost Walmart probably $5 to have on their bikes! Those Walmart brakes are a far far cry from even low end Shimano single pivot brakes they use to make. My example of a 7 year old was to show that even with cheap stiff crappy single pivot brakes they can activate the brakes with no problem, so how is it an adult would complain about nice smooth single pivots.
I haven't forgotten that cars were a man thing back ages ago. but again the contrast of the level of effort on using older cars brakes is not even closely, or remotely related to the effort needed to apply the brakes using single pivots. I use to have a car with manual brakes! You can't tell me that using manual foot brakes are the same level of effort, or even close to the same level of effort as single pivot brakes!! You need to go drive one!
All this you said in your first sentence was a very feeble attempt to make it look like I was saying the same thing. I wasn't even remotely saying the same thing as you tried to make it sound like I was.