those bikes look dreamy!!!

but just to be an argumentative cheap bastard: why do you want the most expensive frame possible??? there are tons of smaller guys out there who will make you just as cool a bike (well maybe not JUST as cool, those vanilla's look almost to pretty to ride to me) for not rnearly as much coin.

i sight my latest mtb:

instead of shelling out $$$$ on and independent fabrications or a seven i went low key and found a little guy.

http://www.waltworks.com/

same custom frame i'da paid 1,500 for at one of the big guys cost me 750 here. is it as nice??? i dunno, it is being shipped now and frankly i don't have any rich firends with those other frames to compare it too, but everyone who's ridden one seems happy!

i say support the little guy. but if you've got the coin and your willing to wait a few years (i think his wait time is being measured in YEARS) i am sure vanilla will build you a piece of rideable art!