Thanks lads gret help ,yeah the super novaare something else but wat out of my budget ,
the edelux is also fantastic but expensive ,
so i think i'll settle for the Lumotes IQ CYO R .
now i have to figure a way to get it mounted on my raleigh road bike.
i will be using a ortlieb barbag so it aint going to fit up on the bars,
can i get a mount to use it on the fork ,or has anyone got a clever way to mount it ..
thanks lads for the advice much appreciated.