holy cow!!!! i haven't seen any prices that high, but i could show you a bunch of places that will build you a custom lugged frame for less than 1,500....

man, like i said i don't wanna argue and i am sure those frames are worth it to some.

but for me, joe average (commuter/weekend enthusiast), i can get 3 full bikes nicer than what i have now for 2,800. maybe i am just cheap but i could never spend that much on a frame...

good for you if you can & do! i'd love to see and drool on one of those someday.

i guess my rambling point here is that: i just wanna people to know you can spend far less for a nice custom frame as well.