Originally Posted by
KonAaron Snake
I'm pretty sure his production models are now built in Taiwan. I also disagree with your comment about these being unaffordable except to those with lots of disposable income...it all depends on priorities. If you decide to bike more, saving on gas, they're very affordable. If you chose to scrimp on clothes, or eating out, or the bar...they're very affordable. If a nice bike is a priority to a middle class person, they can afford one without too much sacrifice. It all depends on what your priorities are. Can the average person afford to save for a year and buy a $3000 bike? Yes...if they prioritize it. They may not need one, they may decide a less expensive bike is fine and adequate, but they CAN do it. Compared to most other sports and hobbies, cycling is affordable.
Rootboy - I don't consider 90% of the old bikes here classic...it all depends on your view. I'd much rather look at a Rivendell than another <fill in the blank hi ten>. Age alone doesn't impart much to me. Quality does.
I was counting Taiwan as a 1st world country along with Japan and the US.
And you're right, a $1,200-3,500 frame is not impossible for a middle class person to buy, but given all the other options out there, you would have to be dead set on a Rivendell to spend that much when there are excellent if more utilitarian options for well under $1,000. Or you would have to be wealthy enough that you just buy what you want.