There certainly wasn't any "hate" just a request that topics be kept in their proper place, especially topics that are contentious and unrelated to the subject of a particular sub-forum. 'Paramount' described the discussion in the helmet thread as a 'swamp' but apparently still wanted to keep only one side of the discussion here. In practice that doesn't usually work - once one side starts going on and on about something the other side feels a need to be heard as well. There have already been hundreds (prob. thousands in all) of pages back and forth on the helmet topic over in A&S - there's no need to have it proliferating to other sub-forums so they can all become 'swamps.'