Originally Posted by scottmilk9

maybe i should clarify, neither were cramping on the bike, its hours after that i felt it more in my quads and he felt it in his calves. I think your description of "ankling" is what he's doing.

We are riding to get into shape, so our long endurance rides are relatively short to some of you, but the little bit of climbing and the distance to us was an endurance ride.