Originally Posted by
KonAaron Snake
Pudget - I don't think the lightest steels are lighter than most 3/2.5 butted ti frames, but am not certain. I know they're close, but I think most ti frames do still have a very slight weight edge - at least after the steel is painted. I really like my ti bikes - but how much is the material and how much is the builder? I like the material properties very much - you don't stress about chips and patina with ti. De Rosa and Tom Kellogg are pretty good designers, so it's not surprising that I'd like their ti bikes.
You're probably right on the whole. I forget that I'm not talking to the folks at R&E who shows crazy pride for how light their lightest road frame is. I agree with the durability... Ti is tough as nails and would probably hold up better vs an aggressively butted, same weight, thin tubed steel bike.
Originally Posted by
gomango
Your Firenze is likely a very fine bicycle.
If it works for you, that's awesome.
I just happen to be a big guy and I have been piling the miles on this summer.
Fom week to week, I can really feel a performance increase.
As my weight goes down, the fitness level is really increasing.
A large framed rider and titanium hasn't been the right combo for me yet unfortunately.
If I should win the lottery a Legend ti could make me very happy though.
Aaron and PP have made good points otherwise and I agree with them.
No animocity here, just complimenting you and expressing my jealousy for your fleet
