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Old 07-26-12, 03:01 PM
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5-8% is a respectable moderately-hard climb, but at 1000feet of elevation, wouldn't be considered a major climb due to the overall shorter length.Where I am in Norcal, near Palo Alto, that would be considered a small (but real) climb as done in isolation.

Line up a few of those en route so you're getting 4000+ feet of climbing, now we're talking respectably tough climbing.
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