It is OK for people to debate a point but it is futile to rubbish particular brands and some people get over-opinionated and start to troll. Luckily, the majority of people who use the folding bikes sub-forum are intelligent helpful, often funny and interesting individuals. The trolls are a minority who like to dismiss others and try to score points in their own mind.

I'm glad the Curl is finally being released and any new bike will always be of interest. I'm glad a reputable specialist like NYCe wheels are giving it a go and I expect to see Thor the God of Dahon's thunder to follow suit soon