Originally Posted by cyccommute

Sorry but I've lead about a hundred beginner rides. I know what a beginner ride is and what one isn't. A ride where the riders ride at a relatively high rate of speed, drop slow riders, don't regroup and don't seem to be all that supportive isn't a beginner ride. I don't have to go on the ride to recognize a feeding frenzy.

To be clear, I've also lead fast road bike rides, intermediate rides, mountain bike rides and overnighters. I know the difference between beginner rides and intermediate/advanced rides. I'm not saying that everyone who comes on a beginner ride has to ride at the same pace but you do not host a beginner ride like the one that El Luchador describes.