hmmm interesting discussion. I was wondering what I would do with my new/used Botecchia if I started commuting and what I would do with my old commuter which has fenders. would I mount fenders on the new bike, use the old bike in bad weather, not ride in bad weather and get rid of the old bike, etc. these look sweet but since I have a foul weather commuter and since I don't take the new bike out for joy rides in bad weather, I think I will pass on getting these