Regular marathons fit what you've written in your first post in this topic. Lighter than marathon plus, a little. Work fine: thornproof (tested it more than once), roll OK (not the fastest tyre), grip is OK on wet and even light snow, but on dry there are A LOT grippier tyres. I use them for commuting on bad roads (paved and not) and find them a good compromise for all weather/all kinds of road use.