I know people who use glue on patches and I haven't heard of one case of "the creeping patch". If the patch is creeping it's because something in the act of preparing the tube to accept the patch has failed. No it and's or but's. Rema patches are designed to stretch a tiny bit, this stretching thing has gotten way out of line. I've pumped up tubes outside the tire with a Rema patch on to the point where the tube was about 2 times larger then the tire, and the patch stretched just enough to keep from tearing but the tube did have that sucked in gut look where the patch was but the patch held with no problems. Don't take my word for it, try it yourself, take one of your patched tubes and just blow it up to 2 times larger then the tire it went into, and if that don't satisfy you pump it some more to 3 times larger and see what happens. I've even done that with glueless patches and the glueless patch never failed either.

I'm with Cyclocommute on this, I helped a stranded cyclist about a month or two ago fix his flat, he had Rema glue on patches, it smelled and felt the same as it did when I used the stuff over 18 years ago. And guess what? It stuck the same too. And a lot of people put too much glue on, it just has to be a very thin coating, and the tube surface needs to be roughed up like the Park web site says that I gave everyone so they could read it and learn...of course nobody learned a damn thing from it because we're still talking about creeping patches, the glue has changed, the patch won't stretch, you can tear the patch off, blah blah blah.

Today's electronic generation had lost touch with mechanical abilities we once all had.

This is my week to be a jackass, hopefully sometime by the end of the week I will go back to being politically correct again.

For the poster with the patch blowing a hole through the center, is this happening AFTER you re-install the tube and then you pump air then it's flat again, or is it happening before you put the tube in the tire? Regardless I would throw those patches away and get Rema, their quality has always been very good. Personally I like Specialized glueless patches, but the electronic generation can't seem to figure out how to make them work.