Thank you for the info, The frame was made in Japan, and I am going the right way, the non drive side with the locking (and yes, I removed the lock ring ) is setup for a pin spanner, which I broke on it, and the drive side just has a set of flats, at 35mm. The frame was bought on ebay for, get ready, $60 shipped, and fits my wife very nicely. We are going to restore it, though with campy and not shimano, but the BB is being a real problem. I was hoping to save the cups (it is a cup style bb, and not the cartridge style) because I like the way they look, but....

This is the first bottom bracket that has given me this many problems. The narrow flats are making it really hard to grab a hold of the drive side, and the nondrive side has nothing to grab onto, because of the threads.