Go back and read Jeff Wills post...
1. Screwdriver or some "nudging/picking" tool handy.
2. Hold the crank with right arm up and left arm down.
3. Slide the crank all the way right...until the left arm elbow is really close to the left side cup. (Make sure left side bearings, cones and nut have already been cleared out.)
4. Then tilt up the left arm and tilt down the right arm at the same time while clearing out the right side bearing if you can.
That should get the left side arm elbow inside the shell against the top and the right arm elbow partially out and against the bottom of the right side of the shell. As Jeff Wills said, "it should just about fall out."
=8-)
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1. I do not claim to be an expert in bicycle mechanics despite my experience.
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Kahane, Howard. Logic and Contemporary Rhetoric: The Use of Reason in Everyday Life