"My neck and back and arse and hips and arms and hands hurt on a DF. Even when properly fit. I reall think lots of people can't get past the looks and the thought of riding an old mans bike."

I got a real chuckle out of the last 8 words in the above quote. I can give you even worse. I ride what you would probably call a geezer mobile (trike). It happens to be a very fine Greenspeed GTO, a tadpole trike that would cost around $6K to replace these days but it has served me very well for the past 8 years and over many thousands of miles. We have a lot of slick, wet surfaces in my area due to lawn irrigation runoff and I managed to crash a few times on both regular and two-wheeled recumbents. So, I got my first trike and then an even better one. Nothing hurts when I get up out of it after a 2 hour ride. I no longer worry about the possibility of breaking a hip in a crash. It's been a death sentence for a lot of older people and even if you recover, it can be a long slow recovery. Read the posting in the 50+ section about the "minor crash" that resulted in a $96K hospital bill. Frankly I don't give a darn about what people think. To be honest, most are pretty positive when I talk to them.