Not really, the swift or pro was used on a Campagnolo Mondia as was the original Brooks sprung version I retired, that saddle was also used on an old Raleigh I rebuilt and was inordinately fond of and sold for $10 - but kept the saddle. Both these bikes were road bikes with drops, I found that the narrow and wide saddles worked fine on these bikes even though the sprung saddle is not the best for the riding position, I found I could adjust it so that it was.

The Brooks B6x which was the replacement for the sprung saddle that I had for such a long time was mounted on my Moulton TSR8 which is a touring bike and had an upright riding position, this was my commute bike for four years and carried me 28 miles back and forth to work, it was a delightful saddle and I was not really aware of any break-in period.

Then at the beginning of this year I bought myself a bike I have lusted after for years - a Moulton TSR 30 and this is what the B17 went on. It really has been hard to be so uncomfortable on such a lovely machine. Then I got sick and have not been riding as much, I am only now beginning to get back in the saddle and I really do not want to be so uncomfortable any more. Getting old...

The pain is a grand great raw area in the mid naughty-bit section, the skin is rubbed raw in a most delicate place. Sitting still is fine, there is no numbness and I am convinced the saddle is adjusted properly, it is as if I am rubbing excessively in some way. I used to ride horses out in Texas - we would go on long pretty wild rides - and at the beginning of the season I would get just such a problem, which would pass and I would be okay. The horse rashes were also more extensive. This is confined but bloody painful. I am riding the bike over the same tracks and roads and the riding position seems fine. Bah - I dunno - I have tried everything except another saddle! I suppose I must think along those lines...

Thanks for your help - this place is so great!