Originally Posted by
Antoni
Hi guys,
Thanks so much for the replies, this is a great forum full of really kind and helpful people. I'm starting to look into the Jamis and Salsa bikes. The Salsa Casserole sds delicious, but I don't know why I feel that the Sojourn is just so much better looking, aesthetics have some impact on my decision.
Other than that, speed is not important for me, I hv a motorcycle for spd. And the idea of touring is alluring, but I do wonder if I'd ever seriously tour for more than a weekend. Also, by gravel trails...sry I meant packed gravel--no off-roading.
So now, I'm wondering if I should just get a Dutch bike where the geometry would be most relaxed, but they are about 15lbs heavier than the Sojourn and wouldn't have the low gearing. Also, would they be as suitable as a touring bike for 2-4 hr rides? I really am a bit puzzled by the weight issue.
I wouldn't worry too much about weight if its a few pounds here or there. I remember talking to a bike tourist in Daytona Beach back in the 70's (I was dreaming of touring the country at that time in my life) and asked him how heavy/light his bike and gear were. He responded that he didn't know (and likely didn't care) and said that if he adds an orange or two it makes up for anything saved in gear/bike so why worry. However, 15 lbs. more on your bike to begin with would give me reason to pause - and walk away. Try and picture yourself moving it around, up stairs maybe, or even putting in a car or van. But more importantly (with all other things equal) a 25-30 pound bike will ride much nicer than a 45 pound bike (especially after an hour or so) - no two ways around that.
On aethetics. For me I love a beautiful bike (am looking at my Vaya right now) and it often inspires me to ride. I think it is important (at least to me) that a bike be something that you like the looks of. You do know that they ride nicer when clean too right?
