Not this time! I watched this Carlton Flyer for several weeks wondering whether I needed another project. Long story short, By the time I decided to give way to want, someone else must bought the frame. There it sat for several months with a "sold" sign at the bottom of the description. Yesterday I shot off an e-mail, "Is the frame still available?" Answer came back, "yes still available". Funds were wired and the frame is on the way. Thank you (or curse you ) Bikegeek1968 for rekindleing an old flame.