Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels

I keep going back to the backpacking comparisons, because I think they're useful. Another thing to note: while some might strive to hit specific points, like a 5 pound base weight. Plenty of people are happy to get to 9.5 pounds and not ever be concerned with going to 5 pounds. I think the same can apply here. Asana usually puts it best, but the less ir more attitude applies here. It's all personal and relative to your own goals for touring and riding. It's fun for us gear nerds to shoot for certain weights, but if we end up on a trip where we need to add a pound or two to our carefully tailored sub 10 pound list, we aren't going to have any sleepless nights over it. It's just a bit of fun to see what is possible and maximizing the ride itself.