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Old 09-27-12 | 08:20 AM
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Rowan
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I have made my point about the bike being included in weight, but to ram it home a little:

To discount the bike is like saying an UL backpacker can pack light... into an eight-pound, heavy-duty, galvanised-steel-tube-framed, canvas pack... and still be walking UL.

C'mon, the bike is an essential part of the whole touring package here. Without it, there is no touring, let alone L, UL or SUL touring.
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