You're starting to cross the line by calling me dishonest when you are the one that accused me of being pro-bicycling lane when it is clear I never took any stance against or for bicycle lanes in this thread. And then when I pointed that out, you start to pull portions of my comments on Mr. Vacca's bicycling agenda to insist I have a stance when his stance is public knowledge.

Go ahead, keep posting, you can keep this thread high up there to show everyone your true colors while I keep pointing out the facts.

Fact #1 - You called me pro-bicycle lane and then backtracked to call me something else when it was pointed out that I never took a stance.
Fact #2 - J. Vacca's position is public knowledge and dropping his stance on bicycles on a bicycling advocacy forum as suggested is disingenuous.
Fact #3 - Any anti-bicycle lane conclusions based on incomplete data is nonsense and the data is clearly incomplete.




As far as bicycle lanes....


Quote from B. Carfree Post #33 -

Unlike Vegas, what happens in cities that are attempting to address the nationwide increase in cycling, particularly when city officials are trying to increase the number of cyclists, ends up not staying in those cities.

For example, I was working with a local traffic planner who is responsible for how the stripes will go onto a street that is going to be repaved next year. The street currently has door-zone bike lanes for much of its length and along the majority of the street the bike lane width is below the state-mandated minimum. He insisted that there was no requirement for him to increase the width of the bike lanes to that mandated by state law because Portland wasn't following the law either. When something becomes standard practice elsewhere we folks who live in the sticks often get stuck with it too. By the way, this was one of the more "bike friendly" traffic planners hereabouts and he is going to try to remove some of the on-street parking (which he has done elsewhere).

So, whether NYC is succeeding with their infrastructure implementations or not matters a great deal to people who will never ride in NYC. Unfortunately, success will likely be measured by whether the press wars are won rather than by some more suitable metric.



My opinion is that each bicycling community should fight for what is right or wrong for their respective situations and not make broad blanket policy based on what works for other regions. The planners that believe what works in one areas always works for others are as guilty as the bicyclist who insist there should/should not be bicycle lanes in other people's bicycling areas based on only their riding situation. For the record, I enjoy reading the different opinions on bicycle lanes, but I also think that posters sometimes get too carried away with their own views instead of listening to what works in different bicycling situations.