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Old 10-04-12 | 03:42 PM
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njkayaker
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Originally Posted by nerys
you make assumptions that have no basis in reality.


Originally Posted by nerys
I would have a small black box that you would mount to the bike. this box would have space for 2 batteries roughly AA sized each. (this by the way is enough space for over 8 amps of cells in 18650 form factor)
Yet another clunky box to strap to your bike. Yuck!

Originally Posted by nerys
this box would have multiple connections onboard. you could then plug "SENSORS" into these ports.
A wireless computer with wires?? Yuck!

Originally Posted by nerys
say a cadence sensor and a speed sensor and a power sensor. do you need anymore? lets say we include 6 ports "just in case"
Six wires? Yuck!

Originally Posted by nerys
all of this would mount to your bike and be relatively permanent. no reason to move it around. THOUGH it might be nice to mount the black box in a custom "mount" so you could "wire up" multiple bikes and just move the "black box" from bike to bike.
With 2 or 6 wires, it's certain that people are not going to want to move it!

Originally Posted by nerys
in fact that IS cool so that is the way I would go. figure this box to be able the size of a pack of playing cards. maybe a wee thicker 25% or so thicker.
Yuck! Yuck! Yuck!

Originally Posted by nerys
I could even see wiring up universal power for ALL my lights (except the headlight it would use its own battery) to this same box and one of the "channels" would turn the lights on or off. you could even design the software to do this for you using the light sensor built into most phones or just press a button on the phone.
More freaking wires? What phone has a "light sensor"? Bizarre.

Originally Posted by nerys
I could even see bikes coming "prewired" and you just plug in your black box and go. (I mean lets be real the sensors are just magnetic switches they are 10cents a pop in reality.
More wires? And you want something cheap???

Originally Posted by nerys
It should be possible (in bulk mass produced) to make this for under $40. there really is simply NOTHING expensive going on here at all maybe even $20 from china. all the "hard work" is done by your phone. the black box just counts the pulses from the dumb sensors and sends the "rates" with an channel id to the phone over BT and we already know we can do a bt headset for $5 so that pat is CHEAP.
You are pulling guesses out of your nether regions.

Right now, you can buy a BT4 speed/cadence sensor for $60. It's a real product. And it's not the complicated, ugly mess you are proposing!

Originally Posted by nerys
you make the silly claim that people don't want batteries yet they don't complain about having a battery pack they have to recharge DAILY for their headlight.?
The lights aren't zipped-tied to the bike. If people could get sufficient light output without recharging, they would certainly choose that!

There's no reason to have to recharge a speed/cadence sensor after five hours!


All this to avoid spending $60 (and having a new phone)??

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