I can only add that: 1) The MAPP is seemed surprisely more expensive per job, 2) Tank capacity is not much, potentially leaving one stuck with join half finished when a tank reaches empty and the resulting in angst of having to reheat after changing tanks, 3) I found it difficult to get enough heat to pull the brass all the way around a lugged joint before a tank expired. In the big picture, I think it can reduce a builders gut confidence / feel that a finished joint is 100% right. So for little jobs like racks, I think it is a ok starter. But as soon as feasible, at least a small set of tanks with a real torch should be a top priority (Amazon lists several as "Portbable Welding sets" that look similar to the small Victor set I got the first time (way back when). Might be able to get a micro-loan for the tools (Google on that). Another option might be to see if one of the local welding supply stores has a used set at a good price or if they would consider leasing/renting them. Might be a chance that one of those good folks would be willing to trade off the cost of the toolset as an offset for a nice mixte frame for his daughter/wife/sweetheart's birthday/anniversary/etc... Worth asking, but it might take bit of social engineering there. Oh one last think; I did only two frames with MAPP setup way back and it kept setting off the smoke alarm. When I had switched to proper tools, I rarely had an alarm go off. I can't prove the cause and effect 100%, but seemed to be 'obviously' so. Hope all this helps or adds.