Originally Posted by jimmuller

I've seen pg's bike and ridden with them. It's a lovely bike and quite functional. I think his comments are meant more as a reason for them to like that bike than a technical treatise on stability. It's all about priorities. Comfort is important to them. This bike meets that criterion. Weight isn't important enough to make them want to replace it.

As for low-hanging fruit, perhaps. Six bottle cages are probably more than sufficient. The fenders are nice only when it's raining. The racks and saddlebag are useful only when they need to carry something. Weight is saved not in big chunks but in many small ones. It could be argued the lights aren't needed except for night riding. On the other hand, it has rained 50% of the time we've ridden with them. We always have panniers and like to carry a nice picnic, and in this kind of weather extra clothes. We run our lights during the day when the weather is overcast, and pg's make their bike equally visible. Around here (and I don't know about his neighborhood) one can easily find water almost every 10 miles or so. So how much weight could/should they save? If they ain't racin' and they like it, then great!