Originally Posted by
Wildwood
Yeah we see this question so regularly it quals as a Sticky.
Bottom line = call it C&V if you wish (others may disagree).
To respond to the OP -
I've got a bunch that meet the 25 yr standard for vintage, but consider my '04 Jon Tallerico lugged steel custom to be about as classic as can be with Columbus EL-OS.
I agree about the sticky. Like I said in the OP there are custom luged steel frames bikes being built today that are basically the same as those being built 25 - 30 years ago.