You guys are great. Thanks for all the feedback! Definitely did NOT notice the apparent dent in the chainstay... I think this is a case closed and a definite pass. Taking in the Isaac song at the moment. Really want to get a classic roadbike with ergo shifting, I guess I'll have to be patient. Let me know if you guys see anything worth while

PS the group in here is just so much easier to converse with then the ssfg crowd, hats off and thanks again