Originally Posted by Bekologist

Don't worry. since i've been sleeping under tarps since the early 1980's, i've already 'come up with it'. I will admit i have been circumspect about rackless touring- despite having broken a single-stay rack while mountain bike touring in the early days of mountain bikies (Not sure who else posting here was mountain bike touring in the 1980's.) Tubus racks have never given me a problem off road.

I also don't evangelize about making a leap to wearing socks on your hands in lieu of warm gloves as an aspirational position to seek out while bike touring.