Originally Posted by
Leisesturm
No, I do NOT dodge in and out of traffic while riding in the door zone. In fact I can remember very few times when I have had to dodge a door. Other things, yes, but dooring as a high priority issue, even in NYC... ... nope. I lived there. I really did. Rode a gazillion miles in every borough. In the door zone. Know what, saw a ***load of other cyclists doing it too. That's where and how I learned. I simply did not ever see hordes of cyclists cruising down the lane center holding all of Manhattan to a sedate 12 miles per hour. I really don't know what's going on but a major perceptural shift takes place when a lot of you get off your bikes and fire up the web browers to post here. The kind of vehicular cycling that is described here is not the kind of vehicular cycling that I see when I'm on the bike.
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Yet you explicitly said you do dodge doors
"If a door is actually open and I go around the vehicle, open door and operator both which means going well out into the lane and maybe on the line to the next lane" If traffic is heavy, say around a city center, cyclists often don't have the luxury to move out several feet 'as needed', so the options are to always stay in traffic, or to stay off the road. And if traffic is heavy, it also tends to mean it's moving slower than a light traffic pattern, so a cyclist is less likely to be causing a slow down, and if they are, it's less of a slow down than it would be under light traffic conditions.
If you're really only going 12mph, that could be part of the difference, a vehicular cyclist shouldn't be traveling that slowly. But I'm mostly convinced your just being contrary because it's fun to argue on the internet. It's to bad you're giving new cyclist bad advice though.