I just picked up a Cycleops Fluid 2, riser block and bike thong for about the price of that kinetic deal. I also bought a Vittoria trainer tire for like $35.00. Although they are probably quite similar had I seen this deal I would have gone the www.bicycleoutfittersindy.com on the Kinetic and spent a little more cash. to be honest I don't think I could tell the difference in either one but I am happy.