If the thread isn't already locked... I read the whole flippin' thing, and there are many opinions and factoids, and lots of "I want one too"... but besides the known fact of the Teledyne Ti breaking issue, where's the dirt?

Does anyone has some real evidence that titanium production is worse than mountain top removal for coal mining, shale oil/tar sands oil production, copper or aluminum production etc? Show us the stains, please. Otherwise, I'm not going to be too shy about saying that I'd like a nice riding modern Ti too, just so I can stop worrying about the expense of upgrading my 30 and 40 year old steel - which won't make them much lighter anyhow.

Even if I possessed one, I can bet that in 40 years I would have a hard time finding components that fit on it.