Originally Posted by
Burton
If you're going to quote somebody - GET IT RIGHT! My suggestion was to buy HALF A DOZEN. And it was a serious suggestion. You're the first one to suggest redundency and multiple lights - but apparently only when it suits you.
If your suggestion of "half a dozen" lights wasn't facetious, then it was silly. Why spend that kind of money on that many lights. masterofsilence already has a light as stated in his posts and only wants this one for augmentation. I
do suggest multiple lights but not 6 redundant lights. I've found that 3, with a small backup (just in case) is enough. Yes, I have broken all three in the past but that was only once and it was a random event.
Originally Posted by
Burton
Oh gee - lets look at one of your past posts where you described your little DIY project that you considered 'Retinal Burners':
And that doesn't include the $70 each you bragged about spending on three seperate chargers. And you only got what? A 1.5 hour run time? Now here you are criticizing ME for spending $120 per light for something that puts out more light than ALL OF YOUR HALOGENS PUT TOGETHER - each of which you paid about $100 for PARTS - and you suddenly think anything I suggest is too expensive?
Context. Context. Context. The halogen lights I built were built in several years ago when even a cheap
halogen light was much more expensive. At about $100 per headlight, they were about half the cost of comparable lights of the time and had a higher output. The run times weren't unusual for lights of that era either. About a year after I started that thread, Magicshine hit the market and I've been suggesting them ever since because you can't make the DIY lights for the same cost. Now that the price of the high intensity LEDs have been driven even lower, there is no sense in using halogen. The light is still very, very bright but just too costly and too heavy to bother building them.
Originally Posted by
Burton
Here's a shocker for you - I have about 20 of those $120 lights and use them on multiple bicycles. And I paid cash. But wait a minute - you apparently have multiple bicycles too. Including a tandem. I guess you paid less than $100 each for those bicycles too - either that or, like your $100 halogen lights - you're still paying off a 30 year mortgage.
I have
3 headlights. That all I really need. They have this clamping mechanism that allows me to move them from bike to bike so that I don't have to do something a dumb as owning twenty $120 lights. Now wonder you suggest "half a dozen" lights! I've got better things to spend $2400 dollars on.
As for the rest of your quote, you are just being rude.
Originally Posted by
Burton
In another recent thread, I commented that your posts usually tend to ridicule someone - thanks for making my point - AGAIN.
You commented that I suggest you're stupid. By now you should have figured out you do THAT to yourself.
And obviously my suggestion that we use these forums constructively was wasted on you and you really need your mommy to stand you in a corner to learn anything.
I only ridicule those who deserve it...like you. Suggesting spending $200+ on 6 lights when masterofsilence only needs one isn't 'constructive'. I read it as being snarky which it was.
Originally Posted by
Burton
A couple years ago Magicshines WERE cheap inferior lights. Now that the company has addressed QC issues and equipped them with different battery pack options - some of which are sourced from very reputable companies - they're no longer inferior. They're also no longer cheap. In fact they're in EXACTLY the same price bracket as the lights they were undercutting a few years back.
Even YOU don't believe what you're posting about those lights - you posted THIS just a short time ago:
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If you wanna buy Wallyworld bikes and Fleabay lights - thats a personal choice. If someone else wants to buy something more state of the art - thats also a personal choice. But for you to even try to suggest they're all the same thing is just ... stupid.
Do you even know what "state of the art" means? The lights that I've been suggesting
are the "state of the art". The old Magicshines were the "state of the art" when they came out. And, when they first came out, the output wasn't the same as the "state of the art" of the overvolted halogens were when I was using them. Overvolting halogens is actually the "state of the art" now because that's where the "art" in halogens lies right now.
Above illustrates a fundamental difference between us. You are concentrated on the performance of the battery. I don't really carry that much about the performance of the battery because the battery is a consumable...it will eventually stop functioning and can be replaced. The light output is far more important to my uses and is the part of the light system that is changing the fastest. Sinking a lot of money into a lamp (with the battery) doesn't make a lot of sense right now. This is quite clearly illustrated by the Magicshine lights.
Four to 6 years ago, the Magicshine was an okay light for about $120 while its competitors were costing about double or more. Two years ago, the Magicshines came out with better emitters at $90 while their competitors were still costing double or more. Now there are even better lights that cost even half of what the Magicshines cost and a tenth of what the competitors cost. There may be some issues with the lights but there were issues with the Magicshines too.
I also change my mind as I get new information. That's why I posted what I posted. When the Magicshine came out I was unimpressed with the light output which is the most important part of the system to me. The new lights I have were inexpensive enough to try an experiment and the experiment was successful. I'd really be a fool if I tried the new lights and then stuck with the old ones because of brand loyalty or because they didn't cost enough. I learn, I grow, I'm open to new ideas.
There is one final difference between you and me. I have actually seen and used the lights I've linked to in the past. You seem to be drawing conclusions based on nothing as far as I can tell. You must be psychic or just blowing smoke. I don't believe in psychics. Quite blowing smoke and actually buy one of the lights suggested. Then you can actually make an argument based on facts rather than speculation.