I'm a fan of glove liners in loose fitting winter gloves, but now that I have brifters I don't think the loose fitting winter gloves would work too well anymore. But I digress. The last time I bought glove liners I happened into my local outdoor store that actually had a choice of 3 brands. After trying all 3 I decied on the pair with the best fit. I suggest you don't buy the liners or any glove for that matter online, but rather in person where you can try things on.