Originally Posted by Hiro11

Regardless of whether or not you plan to do business with these companies, you and a couple of other people were essentially accusing me of making stuff up, which I didn't appreciate.

Overall it's probably worthwhile to understand who's making the bikes and how they're being sold. This is especially true these days. Making carbon frames is capital intensive but (due to cheap Chinese labor) has low marginal costs. Because of these constraints, there's a natural tendancy to reuse designs, pump up volume in particular molds and commoditize frames. Often, frame sellers use marketing jargon and paint to hide the commoditization.