Both.

Went through UBI this fall and got the paper to go with what I already knew and have been certifiable for a much longer time.

I am in the process of tooling up a second frame shop here... travelling 60 miles a day to work in the country is great because I get to work with the master but I will be taking over a lot of the smaller jobs as well as custom rack building and will be able to do them in my shop which is a 32 step commute and will of course be able to build frames.

Should be able to fire up the new torch tonight and have a lot of fixture building to do.

At some point I will inherit the main shop and there is stuff I can do there that most frame builders can't or are not equipped to do (unless you are Frank)... having a lathe and a powder coater means we can build a lot of things one would otherwise have to buy and we can finish our own work instead of sending it out.

The other day we needed a 3/8 by 4 inch roller for the big tube bender that normally gets used for heavier work and it only took a few minutes to chuck up some Al stock in the lathe and turn it out... there is not much one cannot do in such a well equipped shop.

My shop is pretty complete for pretty much every type of mechanical repair and there is not a shop in the city besides mine that can offer frame service.

One day I would love to go and visit Frank... he has a shop to die for.