FWIW, I love my Toba racks. I have them on my commuter and my touring bike. For starters, they're more versatile because they place the load a bit higher and farther back, meaning that my heels don't hit my panniers, which I've had problems with with most other rack models. The other thing is that the mounts are really, really sturdy. Neither of the bikes I have them on is really designed as a touring bike but the Toba racks make it work without heel strike problems, and aside from that, they mount more solidly than any other rack I've ever had. And they're not even expensive as such things go.