Originally Posted by big chainring

The Japanese were using robotic brazing machines. I dont compare them to handmade european bikes. It was a technology advancement for sure, but the hand built bikes are a breed all their own.
To me the japan built bikes of the 80's are bland. They have an artificial look to them. I prefer a few blemishes, a few quirks, a file mark a brazing spatter. Its what makes a bike real and shows its made by a human not pumped out by robots.