Originally Posted by
cyccommute
What do you not get? Do you cook with your stove at home turned down to minimum all the time? All you guys seem to be trying to convince me that the fuel you use is the best fuel on the planet and performs just as well as my fuel choice. I fully acknowledge the short comings of my fuel choice. Availability of butane mixture canisters is limited but they aren't as limited in the US (where I do most of my touring so that's where I'm most concerned about fuel availability) because a major retailer has decided to carry them. Considering that this major retailer is far too prevalent throughout the US...another topic

...I've had no issues in the last 3 or 4 years finding my fuel choice.
I acknowledge that my stove of choice comes with some
possible safety issues, but I have never heard of anyone having problems with these fuels when used according to manufacturers instruction.
I acknowledge that the canister or pressurized liquid fuel stoves are heavier.
Now, are you willing to acknowledge alcohol fuel's shortcomings? That pound for pound it has half the energy density of hydrocarbon fuels? That you have to use more of it to do the same thing? That the heat output from it is less than the heat output from hydrocarbon fuels? That you have to refuel more often because you use so much more of it? That you are limited to a very specific range of fuels...ethanol and methanol...to avoid soot and stove clogging? That an open burning liquid fuel has more chance of getting away from the user then a contained, metered fuel?
The only short coming of alcohol over butane/isopronanol is the lesser energy density and as far as the stoves go its the inability of most alcohol stoves to adjust the heat output.
Alcohol stoves are simpler and lighter for trips where you're away from resupply for up to a week, longer and I'd start to consider a canister. Also whatever the energy density the efficiency of your cooking system is going to depend on other factors that contribute to the transfer of energy from the fuel to your food or water. The base weight and volume overhead of a canister stove is larger than that of an alcohol stove, but for multiple people and weeks away from resupply that vcan be overcome.