I just bought a new Kinetic fluid 2 trainer for $270 shipped on ebay and the Cyclops ones are about the same price on amazon . I figured if I hate using the trainer I can sell it on Craigslist for $200 pretty quickly, and if I buy the crappy $120 trainers it's probably nearly worthless if I don't like it and it's going to end up taking up space or being thrown out if I don't use it. That's my justification for buying the good one anyway.