Originally Posted by
CyclingVirgin

Not trying to jack your thread but what is everyones' feelings on these bad boys?!
When I used to ride sportbikes(Yamaha FZR600's, Honda VFR700/800's, etc.) I never bothered
using any cleaner on the chain. I just wiped it with a rag before applying gear oil - which at the
time was what the manufacturers were recommending in their manuals. So I just carried over the
same habit with my bicycle. Wipe with a rag then a few drops of gear oil followed by more wipes
of the rag. I "borrow" the gear oil from my job

Seems to work for me with my riding in winter
slop and rain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7jfcWEkSrI