Originally Posted by sbslider

For most 4000 feet elevation is not really a mountain, but when it is less than 10 miles from 0 feet elevation, it is a pretty healthy climb.

.... I got the itch to ride my mountain loop, which is up Gibraltar Road, west on Camino Cielo, then down Painted Cave and Old San Marcos Road. Camino Cielo runs along the ridge of the mountain, with views of the ocean and town to the south,and the back country with more mountains to the north. It is a fantastic road to ride, and you really have to pay your dues to get there. !