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Old 01-02-13 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Homeyba
First off, I never said that tire size didn't affect ride quality. What I said was that it was a crutch for poor fame and wheel choice. Very simply you can do the same with a good compliant frame and wheel choice as you can with big tires. That's hardly radical, it's simple fact.
Geometry in and of itself does not have a great impact on comfort. How the frame designer puts the materials together does. You can have two frames with exactly the same geometry one very stiff and one very compliant. Just go down to your lbs and ride a couple different "race" geometry bikes. Very similar geometry, very different rides. Same thing with randoneuring and touring frames. Bike fit is important whether you are on a randoneuring frame or a race frame. We're not talking touring here, that's not even long distance riding.



You've been drinking too much coolaid. I've been over 70mph very comfortably on my "racing" geometry bike. I can take pictures too. That arguement is nuts and it has nothing to do with fatigue over long distances.
Bizzare perspective. Tires don't affect long distance comfort? Frame design can offer pneumatic trail and soak up road bumps like bibendum, the road drunkard? A lower bottom bracket, slacker angles,bigger tires and longer wheelbase don't offer greater stability on descents?

What in the world?

Your perspective is strange, no matter how many miles you've ridden sag in timed events.

But the bike matters. It's not just the fit. shouldn't a good fitter be able to fit a rider to a saddlehorse? seems a lot of misaimed focus when talking about what makes a good bike for long distances.



I'd love to see your one handed pictures of you doing even 41 mph.

I never said that tire size didn't affect ride quality
but

has nothing to do with fatigue over long distances.
I think you've contradicted yourself. too much time in the hot sun under grueling, rough pavement conditions on a skittish bike with skinny tires in a race to be the fastest?

Before the fit, they've got to make the bike!

Maybe you'll get one that takes full fenders AND a 32c tire.THAT Wouldn't affect comfort and handling on a dark, rainy night. it's the fit, see.
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