Sorry about leaving you guys hanging. I checked it two days ago I believe and it seemed the thread died and then tonight it was filled with replies. I am afraid I didn't get the joke at the time lol. As for the time estimate, it took me about 60-65 minutes each way but there were a few steep hills, horrible road conditions and half way on the return trip I was dead on my feet lol. As far as traffic goes, it was a perfect route almost but as far as other things go, I wish I had another route available. The only thing I resent from that trip was the darn dogs. I had two huge dogs bark and chase me. Scared the heck outta me.