Originally Posted by
cplager
In many places, they have "bicycles and motorcycles can run red lights if not sensed" laws in place. Many places that have sensors that don't pick up bicycles also don't have pedestrian switches (or even cross walks).
Then that's fine, but my area does not have such a law, yet many cyclists don't even slow down for lights or signs. I have had to yell at countless fellow cyclists that just don't think laws apply to them as they blow past me while waiting at a red light.
But even in those areas with such a law, one is expected to wait a reasonable amount of time. Every youtube video I have ever seen, the cyclist waits perhaps 5 seconds and jets through. That is NOT in the spirit of the law and is just a license to run a red light. One should wait as long as the light would normally take to turn in areas with a law like this, then proceed only if safe. Anything else is just reckless behavior.