Bruce Gordon and Tubus use 10mm steel tubing for racks. both source bags for their racks.
Bruce, for his ; US .. Tubus and Ortlieb are the same Import hub in Seattle .
Racktime is Ortlieb's sewn instead of welded seam bag line..
find bags but don't like the hooks? change the hooks.
As to the HB bag, Klick-fix handle bar mount + their wire bag support ,
slips right in the sleeves on the side of eclipse bags
and the velcro wraps around the [8mm]wire..
(but UV has likely really weakened the nylon fabric by now, so it tears too easily)..
Last edited by fietsbob; 01-23-13 at 01:20 PM.