Well, if you'd bothered to use the search function yourself and find all the daily iterations of this thread, you'd already know that I *do*. Netiquette is not about being nice to everyone all the time, it's about learning the ways and customs and playing by them. If you're a blockhead when it comes to bikes, that's okay, we got answers. If you won't meet us halfway and actually TRY to find the answer on your own, we'll have plenty of lulz at your expense. It is the Way of our people.