Hey I perused your thread on your ED SL. Very nice!!! Dean has some great welds! Dean bikes are really up there in quality with the more-lusted after frames but it'a too bad John the owner is such a piss-poor businessman. I would never buy another Dean. I'm eventually going to buy another Ti frame for my wife, and won't even consider Dean. I tell everyone that inquires about my frame to spend their money elsewhere. Too many builders out there that put out a great product and provide good customer service. That being said, I still love riding mine. My next Ti roadie?? A Seven!!!