Originally Posted by Starclimber

Uh, yeah...it's like...when you have really big..but no, uh..motion...and...uh...

No. I don't get it either.

No, WAIT! Oh, yeah, that's it... You mean 'real men' who can get it up 'all by themselves' are so strong it doesn't MATTER that they are taking a chestfull of wind. They could even flip their saddles and crush their testes and still grind out an easy victory over wimpy stem-flippers.

I wanna be one of THEM!!! Off with that effete saddle! Seat post only for this 'superman'. And, let me have 200 mm of spacers, please. NO BARS!!! Don't want to be thought of as a Viagra gulping ...one o' them. I'll steer with my TEETH, thank you. Hmmm...no...that might look...

Yeah. I flipped my stem too. I wasn't even out of the driveway before that upright position brought to mind cigarette smoking dudes in full denim with bars flipped straight up, Safeway bag'o'booty dangling from one hand...Next dumpster comin' up!