As long as we've got this thread going, I might toss in that I'm in the market for just such a touring frame myself (that Fuji Touring IV above would be just about perfect if it wasn't in CLE). Either 24" or 25" would work, must have cantis, prefer not beat-up but flexible on everything else. Anyone reading this thread feel free to PM me if you've got one to get rid of. Cash or trade, frameset, full bike or anything in between.